Dear RNC: Thanks for the Survey, Go F Yourselves
My wife got an interesting piece of mail, which she was about to dump, but I said "No, it reads clearly, 'DO NOT DESTROY'" and it also states it should be opened. So she opened it and let me read it. Turns out it's a survey from the Republican National Committee. Strange given my wife is a latte-sipping, hybrid-driving, vegan-leaning liberal. Also, where the f--- is mine?
Anyway, the "survey" is just a push poll asking questions like, "Do you agree with Barack Obama and Nanny Pelosi's efforts to impose massive tax hikes on the American people?" Yeah, that's not a leading question.
The best part is the question at the end where they ask if you want to donate money to keep the country strong, or if you only want to contribute $11. Yes, the options are donate or contribute. So thanks for the survey, but to quote Dick Cheney "Go f--- yourself."
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12 Comments:
Doesn't the Democratic party do the same thing? Leading questions, etc.?
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Unknown, at 4/23/2010 07:03:00 PM
If they do, they've never sent one to us.
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Sumocat, at 4/23/2010 07:04:00 PM
They have to me. I have gotten leading question surveys from both.
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Unknown, at 4/23/2010 07:16:00 PM
If you knew the answer, why'd you ask the question? Oh wait, that was a leading question. So clever.
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Sumocat, at 4/23/2010 07:19:00 PM
It was what we in the educated set call a "rhetorical question", so thanks for confirming where you fall!
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Unknown, at 4/23/2010 07:45:00 PM
"A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for its persuasive effect without the expectation of a reply." -- So Mr. Educated, are you telling me you did not expect a reply to your persuasive, or leading, question? If so, why do you continue to draw out this exchange? Surely, you would not still be here if you did not expect a reply. Or are you in the "educated set" unfamiliar with the meaning of the words you are using?
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Sumocat, at 4/23/2010 08:05:00 PM
Yep, that is right, I did not expected a reply. I just assumed that you knew that both parties followed the same script to pull the $. Sorry I assumed that you would know that!
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Unknown, at 4/23/2010 08:31:00 PM
And yet you're still here plugging away, continuing to prove yourself wrong. It must infuriate you to no end that an uneducated slob like me is schooling you on the definition of words you think you know, showing you how rhetorical questions are actually posed, and causing you to mistype. Sorry, you're already wrong and going elitist doesn't make you look any less wrong.
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Sumocat, at 4/23/2010 08:43:00 PM
Sorry Sumocat, you can try to divert the issue all you want but it is true that both parties pull this same crap to get people to agree to whatever they want you to agree to. That's why people need to be very careful how they interpret any results to any survey.
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Nick, at 4/28/2010 02:44:00 PM
A) I never claimed they didn't.
B) Neither you nor David think you need proof to back your claims.
See, I don't mind being proven wrong, but that requires, you know, proof, like the RNC push poll in my possession.
For example, by providing the definition of a rhetorical question and demonstrating that his leading question did not fit the criteria, I proved that David's claim that he'd presented a rhetorical question was wrong, or at least that his execution was flawed. Had I simply shot back without support that his question was not rhetorical, then I'd just be a jackass making hollow claims.
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Sumocat, at 4/28/2010 03:20:00 PM
Well the real issue being discussed here was the question of whether or not both political parties use leading questions and questionable methods to draw support. Instead of addressing that issue you used a common internet, and political, tactic: you changed the subject. And now you have moved onto another popular chat room argument technique: name calling. I realize that David started it first, but that doesn't mean that you should do it too.
Back to the real issue. Yes, it is despicable that this survey was produced and I most certainly don't support the practice. However, anyone how has followed any politics at all knows that both sides use misleading questions and scare tactics to push their cause. I hope that you are not such a blind supporter of a political party to ignore the fact that both parties are corrupt in their own ways.
As for your "proof" I would say that the survey is much more of an example than any kind of definitive proof. Here is an example of democrats preparing the same kind of leading questions: http://www.everypolitics.com/2010/01/07/dccc-priorites/ The only real difference is that they were smarter about it and didn't make it so stupidly obvious.
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Nick, at 4/29/2010 12:54:00 AM
Again, I didn't dispute whether the Democrats asked leading questions, so there was no discussion. My only problem with David is that he failed to provide an intelligent counterpoint. I don't waste time arguing points I'm not making.
Meanwhile you've found a leaning questionaire posted online by the DCCC that appears not to have included aspersions cast on the other party, or at least none were reported. That's a left-leaning survey on a Democratic site vs a negative push poll mailed to people's homes with explicit instructions not to destroy. It's like topless photos on a website vs hardcore pornography mailed to my door in FedEx-looking envelope.
Furthermore, my point of "[Dems] never sent one to us" still stands, and that's my key problem with the RNC survey. We never asked for it. We're not on their mailing list or any that are similar. So why send this negative propaganda to my wife? And where's mine?
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Sumocat, at 4/29/2010 06:42:00 AM
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